Comments on: He-man drives a flying jetski. Helloooo!? http://www.screenwriterguy.com/2007/05/25/he-man-drives-a-flying-jetski-helloooo/ musings of a wannabe comedy writer Mon, 30 Aug 2010 05:03:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: screenwriterguy http://www.screenwriterguy.com/2007/05/25/he-man-drives-a-flying-jetski-helloooo/comment-page-1/#comment-318 screenwriterguy Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:38:17 +0000 http://www.screenwriterguy.com/2007/05/25/he-man-drives-a-flying-jetski-helloooo/#comment-318 Yes, John, that was a pretty nerdy comment. Then again, I'm the guy who posted because I was upset about <i>He-Man</i> mixing with <i>LotR</i>, so perhaps I shouldn't throw stones. Science Fantasy is actually a very apt title for it. I've always wondered why we haven't seen more work come out of that sub-genre.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('318','screenwriterguy'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('318','screenwriterguy','Yes, John, that was a pretty nerdy comment. Then again, I\'m the guy who posted because I was upset about <i>He-Man<\/i> mixing with <i>LotR<\/i>, so perhaps I shouldn\'t throw stones. Science Fantasy is actually a very apt title for it. I\'ve always wondered why we haven\'t seen more work come out of that sub-genre.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Yes, John, that was a pretty nerdy comment. Then again, I’m the guy who posted because I was upset about He-Man mixing with LotR, so perhaps I shouldn’t throw stones. Science Fantasy is actually a very apt title for it. I’ve always wondered why we haven’t seen more work come out of that sub-genre.
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]]> By: John Howell http://www.screenwriterguy.com/2007/05/25/he-man-drives-a-flying-jetski-helloooo/comment-page-1/#comment-317 John Howell Tue, 05 Jun 2007 01:52:48 +0000 http://www.screenwriterguy.com/2007/05/25/he-man-drives-a-flying-jetski-helloooo/#comment-317 Actually, I believe He-Man would be considered Science Fantasy not Science Fiction, due to the heavy use of fantasy elements. How's that for a nerdy comment?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('317','John Howell'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('317','John Howell','Actually, I believe He-Man would be considered Science Fantasy not Science Fiction, due to the heavy use of fantasy elements. How\'s that for a nerdy comment?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Actually, I believe He-Man would be considered Science Fantasy not Science Fiction, due to the heavy use of fantasy elements. How’s that for a nerdy comment?
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]]> By: screenwriterguy http://www.screenwriterguy.com/2007/05/25/he-man-drives-a-flying-jetski-helloooo/comment-page-1/#comment-303 screenwriterguy Sun, 27 May 2007 02:20:55 +0000 http://www.screenwriterguy.com/2007/05/25/he-man-drives-a-flying-jetski-helloooo/#comment-303 All true, Tim. I think my point was that sci-fi, whether it be a marketing category or something more substantive to storytelling, can frequently be looked down upon by fans of other, more mainstream film categories. My problem wasn't in comparing stories. That is quite valid. What I object to is making the comparison so imprecisely, because it implies that it wasn't worth the journalist's time to find out even the most basic details of these worlds. I wouldn't suggest that someone will love <em>Field of Dreams</em> because they liked <em>Major League</em>. I wouldn't send you to watch <em>Letters from Iwo Jima</em> if you really liked <em>Glory</em> or <em>Starship Troopers.</em> In the end, of course, I think I intended my tone to be much more playful than it must have come across. It's not like I'm REALLY offended if someone doesn't like He-Man. Please. That's how Beast Man would act.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('303','screenwriterguy'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('303','screenwriterguy','All true, Tim.\r\n\r\nI think my point was that sci-fi, whether it be a marketing category or something more substantive to storytelling, can frequently be looked down upon by fans of other, more mainstream film categories.\r\n\r\nMy problem wasn\'t in comparing stories. That is quite valid. What I object to is making the comparison so imprecisely, because it implies that it wasn\'t worth the journalist\'s time to find out even the most basic details of these worlds. I wouldn\'t suggest that someone will love <em>Field of Dreams<\/em> because they liked <em>Major League<\/em>. I wouldn\'t send you to watch <em>Letters from Iwo Jima<\/em> if you really liked <em>Glory<\/em> or <em>Starship Troopers.<\/em>\r\n\r\nIn the end, of course, I think I intended my tone to be much more playful than it must have come across. It\'s not like I\'m REALLY offended if someone doesn\'t like He-Man. Please. That\'s how Beast Man would act.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> All true, Tim.

I think my point was that sci-fi, whether it be a marketing category or something more substantive to storytelling, can frequently be looked down upon by fans of other, more mainstream film categories.

My problem wasn’t in comparing stories. That is quite valid. What I object to is making the comparison so imprecisely, because it implies that it wasn’t worth the journalist’s time to find out even the most basic details of these worlds. I wouldn’t suggest that someone will love Field of Dreams because they liked Major League. I wouldn’t send you to watch Letters from Iwo Jima if you really liked Glory or Starship Troopers.

In the end, of course, I think I intended my tone to be much more playful than it must have come across. It’s not like I’m REALLY offended if someone doesn’t like He-Man. Please. That’s how Beast Man would act.

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]]> By: Tim King http://www.screenwriterguy.com/2007/05/25/he-man-drives-a-flying-jetski-helloooo/comment-page-1/#comment-302 Tim King Sun, 27 May 2007 01:44:39 +0000 http://www.screenwriterguy.com/2007/05/25/he-man-drives-a-flying-jetski-helloooo/#comment-302 Uh. Actually a story "is" not a genre. A story <em>fits into</em> a genre. You can compare <em>He-Man</em> to <em>The Hobbit</em>, because they're both stories. Just as you did when you said, "Prince Adam lived on another planet... Frodo lived in a sylvan land..." Genres are just marketing categories stories fit into. Comparing stories doesn't degrade one category or the other, just because one is typically associated more strongly with the science-fiction genre and the other is associated more strongly with the fantasy genre. One more obvious point: Since genres are marketing categories, a single story can fit into two or more genres at once. It's usually marketed in one category or another. But such is the nature of cross-genre stories. What does that do for the integrity "of an entire genre"? -TimK<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('302','Tim King'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('302','Tim King','Uh. Actually a story \"is\" not a genre. A story <em>fits into<\/em> a genre. You can compare <em>He-Man<\/em> to <em>The Hobbit<\/em>, because they\'re both stories. Just as you did when you said, \"Prince Adam lived on another planet... Frodo lived in a sylvan land...\"\r\n\r\nGenres are just marketing categories stories fit into. Comparing stories doesn\'t degrade one category or the other, just because one is typically associated more strongly with the science-fiction genre and the other is associated more strongly with the fantasy genre.\r\n\r\nOne more obvious point: Since genres are marketing categories, a single story can fit into two or more genres at once. It\'s usually marketed in one category or another. But such is the nature of cross-genre stories. What does that do for the integrity \"of an entire genre\"?\r\n\r\n-TimK'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Uh. Actually a story “is” not a genre. A story fits into a genre. You can compare He-Man to The Hobbit, because they’re both stories. Just as you did when you said, “Prince Adam lived on another planet… Frodo lived in a sylvan land…”

Genres are just marketing categories stories fit into. Comparing stories doesn’t degrade one category or the other, just because one is typically associated more strongly with the science-fiction genre and the other is associated more strongly with the fantasy genre.

One more obvious point: Since genres are marketing categories, a single story can fit into two or more genres at once. It’s usually marketed in one category or another. But such is the nature of cross-genre stories. What does that do for the integrity “of an entire genre”?

-TimK

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]]> By: Mike Standish http://www.screenwriterguy.com/2007/05/25/he-man-drives-a-flying-jetski-helloooo/comment-page-1/#comment-300 Mike Standish Sat, 26 May 2007 15:54:55 +0000 http://www.screenwriterguy.com/2007/05/25/he-man-drives-a-flying-jetski-helloooo/#comment-300 The sad thing is, I could see a He-Man movie, minus Dolph Lundgren, being sorta decent. Also: Read A Game of Thrones if you want to read some nerdy fantasy stuff. It's RAD. It's like Deadwood meets Lord of the Rings.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('300','Mike Standish'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('300','Mike Standish','The sad thing is, I could see a He-Man movie, minus Dolph Lundgren, being sorta decent. \r\n\r\nAlso: Read A Game of Thrones if you want to read some nerdy fantasy stuff. It\'s RAD. It\'s like Deadwood meets Lord of the Rings.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> The sad thing is, I could see a He-Man movie, minus Dolph Lundgren, being sorta decent.

Also: Read A Game of Thrones if you want to read some nerdy fantasy stuff. It’s RAD. It’s like Deadwood meets Lord of the Rings.

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